{"id":585161,"date":"2017-02-04T10:52:26","date_gmt":"2017-02-04T15:52:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/joangarry.com\/?p=585161"},"modified":"2023-03-17T17:19:52","modified_gmt":"2023-03-17T21:19:52","slug":"ep29-leadership-transitions-don-tebbe","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/joangarry.com\/podcast\/ep29-leadership-transitions-don-tebbe\/","title":{"rendered":"Ep 29: Leadership Transitions: How to Avoid the Mess (with Don Tebbe)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<p>Every organization changes leadership at some point.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps somebody retires (lots of baby boomers have nonprofit leadership positions) or finds a new job elsewhere or terms off the board\u2026<\/p>\n<p>No matter what the circumstances, your organization will, at some point (maybe sooner than you think) go through a leadership transition.<\/p>\n<p>A thriving nonprofit always has a transition plan in mind, no matter how strong the current leadership seems. But how exactly do you do this well? How do you keep your organization running smoothly through those transitional times?<\/p>\n<p>To help us figure this out, I\u2019ve asked Don Tebbe, an expert at planning successful leadership transitions, to join me today to give us all some great advice on how to navigate the waters of change.<\/p>\n<h2>About\u00a0Don Tebbe<\/h2>\n<p>Don Tebbe literally wrote the book on this topic \u2013 several, in fact. He has led workshops for thousands of nonprofit executives facing retirement. Don co-founded an executive search firm that became a leader in executive transitions and succession. He has worked with thousands of nonprofits to find, interview and hire new leaders and knows this topic inside and out.<\/p>\n<p>If you are going through a transition in your organization now, or think you might in the future (hint: that\u2019s EVERYONE), you\u2019ll get a lot of good information out of this podcast.<\/p>\n<h2>In this episode:<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Recent trends in leadership transitions in the nonprofit sector<\/li>\n<li>How to create a WRITTEN succession plan (and why it\u2019s critical)<\/li>\n<li>The single biggest mistake boards make in succession planning<\/li>\n<li>The three things a board needs to do when confronted with a transition<\/li>\n<li>Pros and cons of hiring internal candidates<\/li>\n<li>What to do if you think you made the wrong hire<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<h2>Episode Links:<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/dontebbe.com\/about\/\">Don Tebbe&#8217;s Bio<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Don&#8217;s book:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1586860860\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1586860860&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=joanmgarry-20&amp;linkId=fb2c659af06d103da842722f86825a48\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Chief Executive Transitions: How to Hire and Support a Nonprofit CEO<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/dontebbe.com\/books\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Nonprofit CEO Succession Roadmap: Your Guide for the Journey to Life\u2019s Next Chapter<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Don Tebbe\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/dontebbe.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">publications<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bridgespan.org\/insights\/library\/nonprofit-management-tools-and-trends\/succession-planning\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bridgespan<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/interim-exec.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Why-and-How-to-Hire-an-Interim-Executive-Director.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The North Carolina Center for Nonprofits<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.kansascityfed.org\/publicat\/community\/Nonprofit-Executive-Succession-Planning-Toolkit.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City toolkit<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.councilofnonprofits.org\/running-nonprofit\/governance-leadership\/succession-planning-nonprofits-managing-leadership\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The National Council of Nonprofits<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Watch Joan on GIVE on NBC<\/li>\n<li>Music by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jukeboxtheghost.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jukebox the Ghost<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Don Tebbe, an expert at planning successful leadership transitions, joined me to give us all some great advice on how to navigate the waters of 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