{"id":588287,"date":"2018-08-25T10:30:45","date_gmt":"2018-08-25T14:30:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/joangarry.com\/?p=588287"},"modified":"2022-08-11T09:38:01","modified_gmt":"2022-08-11T13:38:01","slug":"ep-66-when-its-time-to-leave-your-org","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/joangarry.com\/podcast\/ep-66-when-its-time-to-leave-your-org\/","title":{"rendered":"Ep 66: When it\u2019s Time to Leave Your Org (with Kate Kendell)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Why do Executive Directors overstay their roles? Inertia? Complacency?<\/p>\n<p>Or maybe they just love their jobs? Maybe the board doesn\u2019t want them to leave. Maybe all of the above.<\/p>\n<p>Often, the longer someone holds that leadership baton, the more identified the organization becomes with that individual. And that can be a challenge to the sustainability of the organization.<\/p>\n<p>Kate Kendell leads the National Center for Lesbian Rights, a national LGBT legal organization founded in 1977, for 22 years. She will be stepping down as the organization\u2019s Executive Director at the end of 2018.<\/p>\n<p>Her job allowed her to live out a purpose-driven and joyful career.<\/p>\n<p>Kate offers her perspective on long standing Executive Directors who understand when it is time to move on. She discusses the pros and cons of staying in a job for two decades and answers questions about handling the transition. We also discussed how issues of age and race informed her decisions when making room for a new leader.<\/p>\n<h2>About Kate Kendell<\/h2>\n<p>Kate Kendell, nationally renowned advocate for social justice, is an attorney and Executive Director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights a position she has held for 22 years. Kate has grown NCLR\u2019s budget from $500K to over $6M and a staff of 5 to 30. NCLR has been a central part of virtually every fight for LGBTQ equality and justice, including being a part of the legal team who won marriage for same-sex couples in 2015. She is an active and cogent voice online and in major media including NPR, The New York Times, and CNN.<\/p>\n<h2>In this episode<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>The many reasons why Kate didn\u2019t leave sooner<\/li>\n<li>How do attitudes of gratitude and possibility affect one\u2019s ability to persevere in a job despite difficult circumstances?<\/li>\n<li>How to add a level of comfort for your donors in your designing your exit strategy<\/li>\n<li>Boards sometimes try to hang on to their outgoing leader for dear life. Should there be an offer for board service? Perhaps an honorary role of some sort?<\/li>\n<li>How much lead time should board leadership get before an Executive Director moves on?<\/li>\n<li>How long should leadership have knowledge that the Executive Director is leaving before it\u2019s announced to staff?<\/li>\n<li>What backwork should be done to get the plan in place before the announcement is made?<\/li>\n<li>Thoughts on transitioning to an interim versus permanent Executive Director<!--more--><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Links:<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.haasjr.org\/issues-impact\/leadership\/flexible-leadership-awards\">Flexible Leadership Program<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/nonprofitleadershiplab.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Nonprofit Leadership Lab<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Joan\u2019s Book:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1119293065\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1119293065&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=joanmgarry-20&amp;linkId=863a77aad4c0f68c64a1e54fdf0ae88d\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Joan Garry\u2019s Guide to Nonprofit Leadership: Because Nonprofits Are Messy<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Music by&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.jukeboxtheghost.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jukebox the Ghost<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Voiceover Work by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cindycapsolutions.com\">Cindy Cap Solutions<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Why do Executive Directors sometimes overstay their roles? 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