{"id":588351,"date":"2018-09-08T10:00:56","date_gmt":"2018-09-08T14:00:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/joangarry.com\/?p=588351"},"modified":"2022-08-11T09:36:13","modified_gmt":"2022-08-11T13:36:13","slug":"ep-67-busting-the-overhead-myth","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/joangarry.com\/podcast\/ep-67-busting-the-overhead-myth\/","title":{"rendered":"Ep 67: Busting the Overhead Myth (with Dan Pallotta)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>High maintenance donors. Do-nothing boards. A lack of development resources.<\/p>\n<p>Running a nonprofit as a board or staff leader can be frustrating.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s no wonder it\u2018s so hard to scale. But what\u2019s the main issue standing between your nonprofit and success? Is it OVERHEAD?<\/p>\n<p>Really?<\/p>\n<p>When you want to make a difference in the world but you believe the holy grail of charity is low overhead, or that high administrative costs indicate a charity is not well run, you undermine your own ability to solve the problems you want to solve.<\/p>\n<p>Listen to this podcast to learn how my guest, Dan Pallotta &nbsp;busts the overhead myth.<\/p>\n<h2>About Dan Pallotta<\/h2>\n<p>(born January 21, 1961) is an American entrepreneur, author, and humanitarian activist. He is best known for his involvement in multi-day charitable events with the long-distance <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Susan_G._Komen_3-Day_for_the_Cure\">Breast Cancer 3-Day walks<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/AIDSRide\">AIDS Rides<\/a> bicycle journeys, and <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Out_of_the_Darkness_(Community_and_Overnight_Walks)\">Out of the Darkness<\/a> suicide prevention night walks. Over nine years, 182,000 people participated in these events and raised $582 million. They were the subject of a Harvard Business School case study.<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dan_Pallotta#cite_note-GrossmanKind-2\">[2]<\/a> He is the author of Uncharitable \u2013 How Restraints on Nonprofits Undermine Their Potential, the best-selling title in the history of <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Tufts_University_Press\">Tufts University Press<\/a>. He is also the author of Charity Case: How the Nonprofit Community Can Stand Up for Itself and Really Change the World, and When Your Moment Comes \u2013 a Guide to Fulfilling Your Dreams. He is the president of Advertising for Humanity and president and founder of the Charity Defense Council. He is a featured contributor to <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Harvard_Business_Review\">Harvard Business Review<\/a> online. In 2012 Pallotta wrote, Charity Case: How the Nonprofit Community Can Stand Up for Itself and Really Change the World, which <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Robert_F._Kennedy,_Jr.\">Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.<\/a> called, \u201can Apollo program for American philanthropy and the nonprofit sector\u201d. The book calls for the creation of a \u201cCharity Defense Council\u201d to act as a national leadership organization for the humanitarian sector in the United States. In 2008 Pallotta wrote, Uncharitable: How Restraints on Nonprofits Undermine Their Potential. It became the best-selling title in the history of Tufts University Press. The New York Times described it as seething &#8220;with indignation at public expectations that charities be prudent, nonprofit and saintly&#8221;. The Stanford Social Innovation Review wrote that the book, &#8220;deserves to become the nonprofit sector\u2019s new manifesto&#8221;. Former U.S. Senator and Presidential candidate Gary Hart wrote that the book was, \u201cnothing less than a revolutionary work&#8221;. Pallotta has given in excess of 150 speeches in 29 countries on the book as of December, 2012.<\/p>\n<h2>In this Episode<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Does it make sense to look at overhead without looking at impact?<\/li>\n<li>An overview of the economics of the nonprofit sector<\/li>\n<li>Why do so many people think keeping overhead low some kind of badge of honor? And do they have a point?<\/li>\n<li>Why don\u2019t leaders challenge this misperception and what would that look like?<\/li>\n<li>Why do political campaigns have permission to spend money to get people engaged but nonprofits do not?<\/li>\n<li>How do the \u201cseals of approval\u201d from watchdog organizations contribute to the scarcity model?<\/li>\n<li>What has online marketing got to do with impact? Why do some nonprofits consider marketing an unnatural act?<\/li>\n<li>How does fundraising build civic engagement?<\/li>\n<li>What would investing in a community of caring (instead of one of consumption) look like?<!--more--><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Links:<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2mJ7QzL\">Uncharitable by Dan Pallotta<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/bolderboard.com\/about-dan\/\">The Bolder Board Training<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2JYO1xI\">Changing Minds by Howard Gardner<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2LoYGHI\">Leading Minds by Howard Gardner<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/nonprofitleadershiplab.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Nonprofit Leadership Lab<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Joan\u2019s Book:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1119293065\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1119293065&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=joanmgarry-20&amp;linkId=863a77aad4c0f68c64a1e54fdf0ae88d\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Joan Garry\u2019s Guide to Nonprofit Leadership: Because Nonprofits Are Messy<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Music by&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.jukeboxtheghost.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jukebox the Ghost<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Voiceover Work by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cindycapsolutions.com\">Cindy Cap Solutions<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Donors won\u2019t give to charities with \u201chigh overhead.\u201d Right? 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