{"id":595570,"date":"2022-11-12T10:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-11-12T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/joangarry.com\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=595570"},"modified":"2022-11-17T09:50:55","modified_gmt":"2022-11-17T14:50:55","slug":"ep-169-when-your-ed-has-a-low-appetite-for-fundraising-with-kishshana-palmer","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/joangarry.com\/podcast\/ep-169-when-your-ed-has-a-low-appetite-for-fundraising-with-kishshana-palmer\/","title":{"rendered":"Ep 169: When Your ED Has a Low Appetite For Fundraising (with Kishshana Palmer)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When asked to describe the differences between the nonprofit and corporate sectors, one specific thing I point to is the centrality of partnerships.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, I\u2019ve long said the single best sign of a thriving nonprofit is a strong relationship between the executive director and board chair.<\/p>\n<p>But what about other kinds of key partnerships? In particular, I\u2019m thinking about the relationship between the executive and development directors.<\/p>\n<p>This one is REALLY important. In fact, it\u2019s one of the most important relationships at most nonprofits.<\/p>\n<p>So I was particularly interested to hear from my friend Kishshana Palmer about how to make this relationship really work.<\/p>\n<p>Kishshana and I both have TONS of stories we could share about Development Director and Executive Director partnerships gone wrong\u2026.<\/p>\n<p>There was that ED who really doesn\u2019t like rich people very much. And the ED who commits to making an ask and then\u2026 doesn\u2019t. And the ED who\u2019s worried guests at a special event will feel awkward if they make a specific pledge for support.<\/p>\n<p>Oy.<\/p>\n<p>If you work in nonprofit development and have an ED with a low appetite for fundraising, this episode is especially for you.<\/p>\n<p>According to Kishshana, the answer lies in knowing your ED\u2019s leadership style. After working closely with many different nonprofit executive directors throughout her career, Kishshana has identified several styles of leadership and uncovered strategies for leveraging them through collaboration and partnership.<\/p>\n<p>While there may be leaders out there who dread fundraising, everyone in your organization wants to see your organization thrive. With this mindset, even the most reluctant leaders can learn to love fundraising.<\/p>\n<h2>Click play to learn:<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>How is the relationship between your organization\u2019s nonprofit development director and ED? (0:39)<\/li>\n<li>Why do some executive directors have a low appetite for fundraising? (4:11)<\/li>\n<li>Why is building relationships so important for executive directors? (6:53)<\/li>\n<li>How can development directors help executive directors evolve from simply collecting names to building relationships with a purpose? (8:54)<\/li>\n<li>As a development director interviewee, how do you learn the fundraising appetite and prowess of the executive director? (10:24)<\/li>\n<li>How do adults\u2019 relationship to money soil fundraising? (18:24)<\/li>\n<li>How can nonprofits do a better job of educating their board and staff about the value of development? (47:19)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><!--more--><\/h2>\n<h2>Resources<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/kishshanaco.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kishshana &amp; Co<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/kishshanaco.com\/podcast\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Let&#8217;s Take This Offline Podcast<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/nonprofitleadershiplab.com\/free\/fixmyboard\/?kfl_ln=nonprofits-are-messy-podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">FREE WORKSHOP: Let\u2019s Build the Nonprofit Board of Your Dreams!<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/y46jnuqs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Joan Garry\u2019s Guide to Nonprofit Leadership \u2013 2nd Edition by Joan Garry<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/nonprofitleadershiplab.com\/free\/5practices\/?kfl_ln=nonprofits-are-messy-podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">FREE WORKSHOP: The 5 Practices of Outstanding Nonprofit Leaders<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/yournonprofitlife.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Your Nonprofit Life Podcast<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/instagram.com\/joangarryconsulting\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Joan Garry\u2019s Instagram<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Explore the <a href=\"https:\/\/nonprofitleadershiplab.com\/?kfl_ln=nonprofits-are-messy-podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Nonprofit Leadership Lab<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Music by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jukeboxtheghost.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jukebox the Ghost<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Voiceover Work by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cindycapsolutions.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cindy Cap Solutions<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>Disclosure of Material Connection: Some of the links in the post above are \u201caffiliate links.\u201d This means if you click on the link and purchase the item, I will receive an affiliate commission. Regardless, I only recommend products or services I use personally and believe will add value to my readers. I am disclosing this in accordance with the Federal Trade Commission\u2019s 16 CFR, Part 255: \u201cGuides Concerning the Use of Endorsements and Testimonials in Advertising.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<h2>About Kishshana Palmer<\/h2>\n<p>Kishshana Palmer is an international speaker, trainer, and coach with a 20+ year background in fundraising, marketing, and talent management who helps leaders create high-performing teams. She is a NYC girl and mother of one wonderful teenage daughter, and the epitome of your classic 90\u2019s Queens homegirl and quintessential corner office executive. She is your daily dose of Claire Huxtable with a side of Blanche Devereaux.<\/p>\n<p>Kishshana is CEO of Kishshana &amp; Co., an organizational development firm focused on helping everyday leaders live well and lead well. Her firm\u2019s work centers on equity and social justice and practical solutions for today\u2019s organizations. She is the founder of The Rooted Collaborative \u2014 a global community focused on the growth and development of women leaders of color in the social sector. She\u2019s the host of the podcast \u201cLet\u2019s Take This Offline\u201d, an adjunct professor at Baruch College, a Certified Fundraising Executive (CFRE), a BoardSource Certified Governance Trainer (CGT), A Gallup Certified Strengths Coach, a Q3LC Certified Coach and an AFP Master Trainer. When an organization wants to grow, find and retain people on their team, raise money, and more she is the fairy godmother they have on speed dial. Her work isn\u2019t limited to organizations, she also coaches high-performing leaders.<\/p>\n<h2>Contact Kishshana Palmer<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Connect with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/kishshanapalmer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kishshana on LinkedIn<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Follow <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kishshanapalmer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kishshana on Twitter<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Follow <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/kishshanapalmer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kishshana on Instagram<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Follow <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/kishshanapalmer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kishshana on Facebook<\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\"><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Does your organization have an ED with a low appetite for fundraising? 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