{"id":596173,"date":"2023-05-06T10:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-05-06T14:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/joangarry.com\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=596173"},"modified":"2023-05-05T14:19:44","modified_gmt":"2023-05-05T18:19:44","slug":"ep-180-internal-conflict-nonprofit-organizations-with-aarati-kasturirangan","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/joangarry.com\/podcast\/ep-180-internal-conflict-nonprofit-organizations-with-aarati-kasturirangan\/","title":{"rendered":"Ep 180: Tackling Internal Conflict &#8211; Strategies for Nonprofit Organizations (with Aarati Kasturirangan)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What happens when the values you espouse for the world or for your clients don\u2019t show up at the office? Many advocates take their anger out on each other. Today, we&#8217;re going to talk about internal conflict within nonprofit organizations and why it seems to be hard-wired into the DNA of the nonprofit sector\u2019s strongest champions\u2026\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you&#8217;ve ever been part of a nonprofit team, then you know that we&#8217;re a passionate bunch. We&#8217;re fierce, gritty, persistent, and feisty \u2013 attributes that make us great advocates for the causes we care about.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But sometimes, these same attributes can make us challenging colleagues to work with\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I remember my days working with an LGBTQ organization back in the late 90s. Whenever I\u2019d do media appearances, I would face blatant homophobia and receive TONS of hate mail. I even remember one media personality telling me that if they could, they would work to have my children taken from me.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sometimes these experiences would leave me in tears and other times, they left me infuriated.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That anger fueled my advocacy work, but it would also spill over into my day-to-day life as a member of the staff at the organization, leading to internal conflict and challenging workplace dynamics. I\u2019m sure many of you reading this can relate in your own way.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Today we\u2019ll talk about what that looks like, and what folks like my guest, \u200b\u200bAarati Kasturirangan, and her team do about it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Aarati has spent over 22 years working with diverse changemakers from all walks of life to transform internal cultures and structures, and build effective, values-aligned strategies for change.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In this episode, we talk about the most effective ways for nonprofit organizations to navigate the internal conflict that can arise in the midst of the fierce advocacy that drives our work, and how we can all work together to create healthier, more supportive environments for everyone working in the nonprofit sector.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2>Tune in to learn:<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How do internal conflicts arise from the inside\/outside values of nonprofit organizations? (6:10)<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What are some common reasons for problematic work cultures and internal conflict in nonprofit organizations, and how do leaders contribute to this? (10:27)<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How do you know if your nonprofit organization has a workplace culture problem? What signs should you look for? (14:44)<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What role does DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) play in addressing internal conflict within nonprofit organizations? (17:16)<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What is the most effective way for nonprofit leaders to address internal conflict and communicate with advocates without triggering defensiveness? (20:46)<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How do you keep advocates engaged and motivated within a diverse team of doers and thinkers? (23:56)<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What essential soft skills should nonprofit leaders develop to better manage internal conflict and create a positive work culture? (39:51)<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><!--more--><\/h2>\n<h2>Resources<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/41hS14e\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When to Talk and\u00a0 When to Fight by Rebecca Subar<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dragonfly-partners.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Dragonfly Partners<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/inittogether.cargo.site\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Framework: In It Together<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/americanincarnations.blog\/author\/aaratikasturirangan\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">AmericanIncarnations<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/journals.sagepub.com\/doi\/10.1177\/1077801208325188\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Empowerment and Programs Designed to Address Domestic Violence<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/41FslyK\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When to Talk When to Fight &#8211; <\/span><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Rebecca-Subar\/e\/B097F78VP1\/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Rebecca Subar<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/y46jnuqs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Joan Garry\u2019s Guide to Nonprofit Leadership \u2013 2nd Edition by Joan Garry<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/nonprofitleadershiplab.com\/free\/fixmyboard\/?kfl_ln=nonprofits-are-messy-podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">FREE WORKSHOP: Let\u2019s Build the Nonprofit Board of Your Dreams!<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/nonprofitleadershiplab.com\/free\/5practices\/?kfl_ln=nonprofits-are-messy-podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">FREE WORKSHOP: The 5 Practices of Outstanding Nonprofit Leaders<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/firsttee.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">First Tee<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nonprofitleadershiplab.com\/podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nonprofit Leadership Lab<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li>Music by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jukeboxtheghost.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Jukebox the Ghost<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Voiceover Work by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cindycapsolutions.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Cindy Cap Solutions<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>Disclosure of Material Connection: Some of the links in the post above are \u201caffiliate links.\u201d This means if you click on the link and purchase the item, I will receive an affiliate commission. Regardless, I only recommend products or services I use personally and believe will add value to my readers. I am disclosing this in accordance with the Federal Trade Commission\u2019s 16 CFR, Part 255: \u201cGuides Concerning the Use of Endorsements and Testimonials in Advertising.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<h2>About Aarati Kasturirangan<\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Aarati Kasturirangan is the Senior Partner and Managing Director at Dragonfly Partners. She does strategic planning, values alignment and organizational development for changemakers and supports organizations through transition and change.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2>Connect with Aarati Kasturirangan<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/aarati.kasturirangan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Facebook<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/aarati-kasturirangan-96384334\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">LinkedIn<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/aarati4justice\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Twitter<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/aarati4justice\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Instagram<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When fierce advocates clash, who you gonna call? 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